Anti-Piracy Organization Tries to Shut Down Demonoid
Written by Ernesto on June 27, 2007The Dutch anti-piracy outfit BREIN filed a subpoena against Demonoid’s ISP (Leaseweb) in which they demand that the site will be taken offline. It seems likely that Demonoid’s current downtime is not a hardware problem, they are probably moving to another ISP.
Yesterday we reported that the downtime at demonoid was caused by a harddisk crash, but now it seems that the real reason for the downtime could be a bit more complicated.
Demonoid is probably relocating to a new “safe haven” as we speak, this also explains why it takes a few days instead of a few hours to get back online (edit: see update).
Tim Kuik, managing director of BREIN, said in response to the downtime at Demonoid (Dutch link): “They are probably playing hide and seek. We want Leaseweb to take and keep this, and other illegal sites offline.”
This the the fist time that BREIN takes on one of the bigger BitTorrent sites. Last week they won a lawsuit against Leaseweb in a similar case, this could spell trouble for Demonoid.
In this case the Amsterdam court decided that Leaseweb had to take down everlasting.nu and hand over the name and address of the owner. Additionally, Leaseweb was forced to take down everlasting.nu, in case the site returns in the near future. The same thing could now happen to Demonoid.
Nearly 94% of the .torrent files on Demonoid are used to download copyrighted material according to research by TNO. BREIN will probably use this figure in court to convince the Judge that Demonoid is mainly used to download infringing content.
Update: Demonoid now has a message on the frontpage stating that the downtime is not related to the subpoena.
Stay tuned for updates
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Quote “Additionally, Leaseweb was forced to take down everlasting.nu, in case the site returns” /Quote
I assume you mean the domain name? They could only do that if they are the registrar right?
I hope demonoid didn’t use leaseweb as their registrar.
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I assume you mean the domain name? They could only do that if they are the registrar right?[/quote]
No, I meant the site behind the domain. They are free to move to another ISP if they want to.
Demonoid will be back up soon, they have not been taken down - also note the temporary message from the Demonoid site.
If they had been taken down they would not be able to place that now would they?
then where the hell did you get the idea that it was a hardware problem in the last post?
[quote comment="124764"]Demonoid will be back up soon, they have not been taken down - also note the temporary message from the Demonoid site.
If they had been taken down they would not be able to place that now would they?[/quote]
They have not been taken down, but have merely taken it upon themselves to relocate because of the fuss with everlasting.nu.
It’s good because you know the admins at Demonoid are taking the first step at preventing the same thing from happening to them.
So many good torrent sites, so many bad anti p2p organizations. :(
[quote comment="124779"]then where the hell did you get the idea that it was a hardware problem in the last post?[/quote]
That’s the official statement in their IRC channel and on demonoid.com
[quote comment="124764"]Demonoid will be back up soon, they have not been taken down - also note the temporary message from the Demonoid site.
If they had been taken down they would not be able to place that now would they?[/quote]
Read the post, BREIN filed a lawsuit, so they’re not taken down yet.
Well we hope demonoid is back up soon cuse the traker is very slow 5kb/sec with 50 seeds….
Everlasting wasn’t taken down because it was a torrent site, but because they had come back after being taken down once before (as “Ladytorrent”).
Also, the case against Everlasting wasn’t a lawsuit but a “kort geding” (cease & desist), which means that, according to Dutch Law, it CAN’T be used as a legal precedent against sites like Demonoid.
So please, stop the conjecture… it’s just a hardware problem (disk refusing to come back online after a forced disk check) and it’s purely coincidental. (Really.)
[quote comment="124800"]Everlasting wasn’t taken down because it was a torrent site, but because they had come back after being taken down once before (as “Ladytorrent”).
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Ladytorrent wasn’t even mentioned in the ruling
Quote from Deimos,
“I tried to force a disk check, and the fucking thing decided not to come back online after a reboot. It seems the data is lost. I have a few days old backup though…
it is definitely not my week.”
“I’ll set up the web server again to at least have a message on the site as soon as the host’s support brings the server back..
it should be in around 6 hours.”
demonoid should move to sweeden…
…and maybe join up with piratebay
The cause for the ruling was that the owner of Everlasting.nu was uploading a lot of the torrents, and the ruling does not mention LadyTorrent but BREIN says in their news page that the guy is suspected of running that too. That fact was probably mentioned a few times in court
Good job Demonoid… I hope theyd drop that ISP… Too Risky To Stay Wit Old!…
We are not moving ISP’s… We did have Hardware issues. Should be back up within the next 2 days.
If we were switching ISP’s, we would have been up in one day. Don’t be retarded please.
the website is down but the tracker is still working not much of victory
New message
”
We were planning on returning online in the next few hours - probably tomorrow afternoon. But due some recent events, and following the advice of a lot of you, we will make a few more changes that might take a few days longer. As always, thanks for you continued support and patience. For the ones wondering, the timing of the downtime was coincidental.”
Demonoid will make it through this, all the other sites do.
If you do a whois search on their domain, then enter the IP into RIPE’s server, you can see they are still on Leaseweb (for the moment):
netname: LEASEWEB
descr: LeaseWeb
descr: P.O. Box 93054
descr: 1090BB AMSTERDAM
descr: Netherlands
So, as of yet, they have not moved.
Demonoid is big. BREIN is relatively unexperienced at lawsuits. I am not very scared of BREIN taking down Demonoid. But in the words of a demonoid member if it does go dowbn it is time to fear teh reaper.
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